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tophat Sir_Benjamin_083
Since: Oct '15
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http://www.reviewjournal.com/business/stadium/drive-bring-raiders-las-vegas-shifting-focus-convincing-nfl


By RICHARD N. VELOTTA
LAS VEGAS REVIEW-JOURNAL

Proponents of luring the Oakland Raiders to Las Vegas to a planned $1.9 billion, 65,000-seat domed football stadium take on a new challenge with a familiar strategy beginning this week.


Instead of working to convince 63 Nevada lawmakers of the benefits of a stadium as they did last week, development team leaders will have to convince at least 24 of 32 National Football League team owners of why Las Vegas is worthy of becoming home to an NFL team.


And, while representatives of the family of Sheldon Adelson and a small army of lobbyists did most of the work to convince two-thirds of the state’s legislators to vote their way, the Raiders and their owner, Mark Davis, will lead the effort to persuade the NFL owners.


Davis and his executives begin the effort Tuesday when NFL owners begin two days of meetings in Houston. Relocation of the team isn’t on the agenda of the who league’s fall meetings, but Davis plans to introduce some details of the proposal in advance of January’s winter meetings when a relocation decision is expected to be reached.

 

“The timing was perfect,” said Andy Abboud, vice president of government relations and community development for Las Vegas Sands and a spokesman for the Adelson family on stadium matters. If the Legislature hadn’t approved the stadium financing plan this past week, or if it had punted the decision to the Clark County Commission, then the developers would have missed next week’s presentation to the NFL owners.


“The rest of the work is the Raiders and the NFL,” Abboud said. “Our role sort of diminishes, but now we have a lot of work to do in terms of starting to construct this thing and a lot of planning work needs to be done.”







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tophat Squiggy
Since: Feb '15
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So other than some raider fans,  no one opposes them departing?

Sounds like a rerun of the  Rams.







rose SexyLindy
Since: Jan '15
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Fuck'em!! They don't seem to appreciate the hardcore loyalty of their fans.
They are now the (Former-Oakland) "Las Vegas Traitors"

...they "mutinied" against their fans
...the "Las Vegas Traders...for a fancy stadium in the desert.
"Sin City Traitors"
And they will soon have more Las Vegas Haters

Bummer year for sports in Cali: we lose the Raiders and dont get the Series either.
Sorry for your pain guys...

SexyLindy
aka LustyLyndy







tophat Sir_Benjamin_083
Since: Oct '15
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It's not about fan "loyalty." It's about cities and metro areas spending the money to keep their teams. Back in 1982 Al Davis took the Raiders to Los Angeles because the Oakland Coliseum Commission refused to give him the proper improvements to the stadium. When LA did not give him a proper stadium Oakland was given a second chance.

In the 21 years the Raiders have been back the Coliseum has been a dump and no public money has been offered to build a new one. Las Vegas stepped up to the plate with 750 million of public funding.

Oakland has done a great job of redevelopment in the last 20 years and sports teams are no longer important to the city. If there were so many Die-hard fans why did the Raiders have to close off part of their stadium to get sell outs?

It's in the best interests of the NFL to vote positively for the move of the soon to be Las Vegas Raiders.Greater Clark County has a population of over 2.2 million and with millions of people going to the conventions the Las Vegas Raiders will be a smash success.







tophat Danno
Since: Jun '14 Vip  
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  • That Mt Davis is so far from the field, you might as well stay home and watch it on TV







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tophat Pusimassage
Since: Mar '16
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Whaaaaaaaat! Yuuup xactly what I said when I sat there for a steelers raiders game! I felt I was more in tune with the shipping lanes in the bay than I was with the game! Never again! 







tophat Sir_Benjamin_083
Since: Oct '15
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I'm not a Raider fan but I used to go to quite a few of their games.

I've never sat in MT Davis but I climbed up there just to see. You are right. You might as well watch it on TV but the same could be said for the nose bleed seats in a lot of stadiums. I remember going to games where the "announced" crowd was around 40k but there could not have been more than 20-25K people who actually showed up.

If Oakland was serious about keeping the Raiders they would have come up with a properly funded stadium proposal ages ago.







tophat Stainless
Since: Aug '16 Vip  
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Oakland residents will be paying off the 1995 deal for the next 10 years whether the Raiders stay or go, and the Mayor is right to say the city can't afford the NFL's asking price.







tophat eastbayjunkie
Since: Sep '14
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My 2 cents. 

Let Mark Davis take his team but dont let him take the "Raiders". Meaning he can go, with all his players and have his new stadium but the Raiders logo, history, colors..etc.. stay in Oakland. 

Better yet..do us all a favor Mark and sell the team to a local tech billionaire who can afford to build a stadium with his own money here in the bay area. you cant afford to own the Oakland Raiders anymore.

If this does happen, it will be the biggest Failure in NFL history. You heard it here first.....
 







rose SexyLindy
Since: Jan '15
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Oh I like EBJ's suggestion a lot! Yes the name should change if they go to LV...but come to think of it "raiders" is also appropriate since millions of pple get raided by the casinos of their millions every day there...lol.

A tech billionaire probly wouldnt want the headache but it's a logical idea.

To the other posters, thanks for filling me in. I realize it all comes down to money, esp in the worlds of entertainment and sports.
Plus, I'm still bitter over the bs in Sac of the new stadium for the Kings bitches & their bitch leader Kevin Johnson.

I didnt realize the Raiders' stadium wz that far gone & that the city had failed them so much. The news this past week even showed the massive leaking when it had rained during that game.
Repairs & upgrades should have surely been done by now. Given that it wz probably impossible during the recession, they should have ramped up since 2013 /14 when money started flowing in the construction sector again.

Then again, isn't the stadium that a team uses to earn their profits their responsibility to a large degree? Seems like they would be able to have make improvements themselves with sum of their profit set aside for this.
Someone feel free to give a breakdown here: I'd like to know how the responsibilities of a stadium are distributed when it comes to city & users, including shows hosted also

Thanks

SexyLindy.







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tophat Pusimassage
Since: Mar '16
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Whaaaaaaaat! I feel that billionaires should fund there own billion dollar stadiums or open a go fund me account and see where that goes!
Just can't see big momma or aunt Velma having her tax dollars spent on a stadium she wouldn't give a potta neck bones and greens to visit or see! just saying! 







rose SexyLindy
Since: Jan '15
pushpin 451 - 20 Reviews



"Whaaaaaaaat! I feel that billionaires should fund there own billion dollar stadiums or open a go fund me account and see where that goes!
Just can't see big momma or aunt Velma having her tax dollars spent on a stadium she wouldn't give a potta neck bones and greens to visit or see! just saying!"
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(In a jewish mom voice)...
"This is what I'm sayeeng!"

Read what Eastbayjunkie wrote. Same idea as what u said, & I agree.

SexyLindy







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tophat Ballz_Deep
Since: Aug '15
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More real everyday buh bye







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tophat SureLets
Since: Aug '14
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More real everyday buh bye

Yeah, starting to feel real w announcement just out Raiders are actually filing relocation app and reports that the requisite # of NFL franchise owners are expected to support their app. TOTALLY SUCKS!!!!
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tophat gdoggydog
Since: Jan '15
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Hope the relocate. Fuck the Raiders and fuck Oakland. Oakland ain't hard. It's just a bunch of wannabe thugs now a days. Too many pansy ass politically correct hipster dumbasses moved into Oakland. Fuck Oakland.







tophat pervyellis
Since: Nov '16
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Dude who pissed in your Cheerios? Rinse your mouth out and get that sour taste out! 







tophat 62072
Since: Sep '16
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Funny how the game changes and Mark ain't Al.  Tried to pull a fast one and cut Adelson out of the deal but he's out of his league.  Doing this has cost him his leverage against he both Oakland and Vegas.  Doesn't understand that Adelson owns Nevada/Vegas and Goldman Sachs knows where their bread is buttered.  Should be an object lesson. if he goes to Vegas, they will take him to the cleaners.  He thinks he's a shark but he's a whale.  







tophat packard
Since: Jul '14
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Mark wears his hair like Moe of the Three Stooges.  In his dealings with Las Vegas he showed
there was more Moe in him than just the hair cut.  All he can say now is, "Shaddup you
Morons!" and then poke himself in the eye.







Prison mike
tophat Prison Mike
Since: Sep '14
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Thank you, packard! You're the first person to acknowledge this for me. Mark Davis is indeed the red-headed version of Moe Howard, complete with the anachronistic "soup bowl" haircut. The 'doo is called that because it's done by placing a soup bowl upside down over the head and trimming around with scissors, using the bowl's rim as a guide. Very little haircutting skill is required for the "soup bowl".

I guess finding no one else until now who could relate to this likeness is because some of us are of "a certain age" (read: getting old). Fewer and fewer guys - and The Three Stooges is a classic guy-thing - even know about The Stooges any more. sad

FWIW,
Prison Mike







tophat 62072
Since: Sep '16
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Ok, who was the fourth stooge?







Prison mike
tophat Prison Mike
Since: Sep '14
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In this Raiders-gonna-move-out-of-Oakland drama, I don't know. Are there any other progeny of Al Davis in the current iteration of the organization? Is Al's widow, perhaps, a behind-the-scenes force in all of this? I had heard she is fond of Oakland, and that is what drove Al's decision to move back from Los Angeles.

At the risk of hijacking the thread, but to answer your question - and it is subject to interpretation - that could be Curly (he joined originally to replace Shemp), Shemp (he rejoined the group after Curly fell ill), Joe Besser (not a good fit for The Stooges), Curly-Joe DeRita (in the post-short film era) and Emil Sitka (under contract to replace Larry after his death, but never produced any films or shorts).

FWIW,
Prison Mike







tophat packard
Since: Jul '14
pushpin 157 - 24 Reviews


I also think Al's widow favors staying in Oakland, but she is very old and may not have much influence on the stooge like son.
I just wish he would sell the team to some local tech billionaire who could build a new stadium and keep the Raiders in their
only real home, Oakland.  Mark "Moe" is the 4th or 5th stooge, except they all had good hearts where he has no heart.
Still, Sheldon Adelson is just the type of guy the stooges would get into trouble with!







tophat 62072
Since: Sep '16
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Heart?  Al was ruthless as a businessman but he was loyal to his players.  The notable exception being Marcus Allen for whatever reason.  I just think Mark is just not a very smart guy who overrates his own abilities.

Thanks.  It was Shemp I was thinking of and to lazy to check the web.  







Bear1
tophat Asubtlesenior
Since: Sep '14 Vip  
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GO RAIDERS!
Seriously, just go.







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tophat Pusimassage
Since: Mar '16
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Whaaaaaaaat! Al's problem with Marcus was he was fucking OJ's Nicole Brown Simpson and Al thought of OJ as the second coming of Christ!. Since Marcus wouldn't listen to him off the field so Al hit him where it hurts...the Game!.
Al was pretty old school up until the day he died! Fucking with the king's Queen was a big No-No in his book and knew Marcus could of had all the white pussi he wanted with out disrespecting the hall of famer OJ Simpson.