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rose Eva victoria
Since: Oct '15 Vip  
pushpin 80 - 31 Reviews


You know I contemplated on posting this because I non stop hear from men “the chances of catching an STD through oral is slim to none” so on and so forth and I know those guys are going to hop on this thread any moment but I decided to anyways! even I (who is non gfe) as I’m sure many other women have thought of doing gfe for the better pay, more customers but I never have but the thought has went through my head and thankfully when I see things like this I surely don’t regret sticking to being safe! I feel like us non gfe girls get pressured so much for BB recently! I’ve been told on NS many times my prices are to high for non GFE services blah blah blah and when having a stalker and put in neighborhood watch a man wrote in the forums “let her go bro she charges $400 an hour and doesn’t even do gfe let her go there’s better fish in the sea” smh like what kind of shit is that! That’s fine is non gfe isn’t your cup of tea or maybe it is to each their own but don’t bash us in the process of it! Be safe 

California STD’s are up 40% since 5 years ago (and all that have increased can be transmitted orally!)




XoXo

Eva Victoria 





https://www.google.com/amp/sacramento.cbslocal.com/2017/09/26/california-stds-2016-report/am









tophat MeatPole
Since: Jul '14
pushpin 507 - 49 Reviews


That's messed up, you should be able to charge what you think you're worth, and if you don't want to be GFE, that's your choice and no one else's. 

The story you shared is disconcerting, but doesn't link bbbj with spread of disease, or mention it at all.  Just sayin'. 

Cheers,

MP







Tim curry legend o
tophat Gentlemansavage
Since: Jan '17 Vip  
pushpin 769 - Qr 24 Reviews


It's more of a case of a stressed out population eating shitty food, not getting enough sleep and or exercise. 


Our healthy immune system is a fucking Warlord if you keep it that way.



Even when a pathogen is the principal cause of a disease, environmental
and hereditary factors often influence the severity of the disease, and
whether a potential host individual becomes infected when exposed to the
pathogen.

Germ Theory of disease


Short answer.....we are exposed to all sorts of nasty shit daily. Hell, there's MRSA in your garden.

Sleep well, exercise and do some Yoga, and don't eat much of the "American Diet."










Bill and monica
tophat Maxoff
Since: Jul '14
pushpin 306 - 8 Reviews


Lots of recent news articles about this when you google it,  each with it's own version of "spin", and certainly very concerning, although none have made any mention or speculation about the increased number of cases being at all related to oral sex transmission.


http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-ln-std-rates-20170926-story.html







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rose chloediamond
Since: Sep '17
pushpin 26 - 1 Review


Chlamydia of the throat is transmitted through unprotected oral sex with someone who is already infected with the chlamydia bacteria. If symptoms present themselves, which in the majority of cases they do not, they will typically appear one to three weeks after transmission. A sore throat or irritation to the throat will usually be the first symptoms of chlamydia in the throat. If a sore throat lasts longer than average, it could be an indication of the condition — it is advised that a sore throat lasting a week or more be checked out by a doctor.

While the presence of a sore throat may not be a telltale sign of the condition, there are other symptoms to watch out for. Pain when swallowing can be an indicator of throat chlamydia, as can pain in the throat when talking for a significant period of time. When experiencing throat pain, solid foods will be uncomfortable to swallow.

Fever can also accompany chlamydia in the throat. It may or may not include pain in the throat, depending on the individual case. The Chlamydia trachomatis bacteria can impel the body to bolster its natural defense mechanisms, prompting a fever to try and stave off the invading bacteria.

But it still exists, and the important part is that it's transmitted through oral sex. Many people don't even know that disease can be transmitted this way. So people should know about the health of the person they're having sex with and they should always use protection

A person who has practiced fellatio on (sucked the penis of) a person who had chlamydia infection in his penis could then have chlamydia in their throat. Usually, symptoms are so mild that they aren't noticed. If they are noticed, they may be thought of as an ordinary sore throat that does not require treatment.







Tim curry legend o
tophat Gentlemansavage
Since: Jan '17 Vip  
pushpin 769 - Qr 24 Reviews


There's a big difference between colonization and active infection.


Most people are colonized, but rarely infectious.


For why, see my post above.







Bill and monica
tophat Maxoff
Since: Jul '14
pushpin 306 - 8 Reviews


Chlamydia pharyngitis, as an STD, is not routinely tested for except in significantly immunosuppressed patients with HIV.


If you google "incidence or prevalence of chlamydia pharyngitis" to find statistics, not much helpful info  comes up, except for this one old study from 1985.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/4056011


And this relatively small study from 1995 which concluded that Chlamydia Pharyngitis is so uncommon that is not recommended testing for, and in fact, currently available Chlamydia tests are not FDA approved for pharyngeal testing

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC502719/


Chlamydia STD reported data are based on genital cases (NOT throat/pharyngeal), except in rare studies of HIV+ men where rectal and pharyngeal testing is done on a research basis


So, yes, Chlamydia is THE most common STD in the US, and it not infrequently has no symptoms.  These are genital infections, not pharyngeal (throat) infections.


There  can be some confusion for people by interchanging names and diseases related to the STD of Chlamydia Trachomatis and the NON-STD respiratory pathogen of Chlamydia Pneumoniae

http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/297351-overview

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/102418.php


Personally, I would not be concerned about "Chlamydia" of the throat/pharynx, but Gonorrhea of the throat/pharynx does occur, although it is primarily found in the MSM community







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rose chloediamond
Since: Sep '17
pushpin 26 - 1 Review


that said nothing about colonization, 

it said the symptoms and that its very likely to happen. 


Gonorrhea is a sexually transmitted disease (STD) that can infect both men and women. It can cause infections in the genitals, rectum, and throat. It is a very common infection, 

You can get gonorrhea by having vaginal, anal, or oral sex with someone who has gonorrhea. 


Any sexually active person can get gonorrhea through unprotected vaginal, anal, or oral sex.

Gonorrhea is transmitted through sexual contact with the penis, vagina, mouth, or anus of an infected partner. Ejaculation does not have to occur for gonorrhea to be transmitted or acquired.
Pharyngeal infection may cause a sore throat
More often than not, gonorrhea in the mouth and throat has no symptoms. If there are symptoms, it may simply feel like a sore throat or there may be some discomfort when swallowing food. In appearance, there may be some redness in the throat or occasionally some white spots or whitish/yellow discharge. It may resemble a strep throat









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rose chloediamond
Since: Sep '17
pushpin 26 - 1 Review


no, thank you, i know exactly what im talking about. 

and way to go finding the most outdated information on the subject making it look like its just mumbo jumbo. 

are you hoping everyone just takes your word for it and doesnt look it up themselves?

but its not. 


and i know the difference i am not confused at all. 

im talking about the stds that arise from having strange dick in your mouth.

you guys see it as less of a threat because im guessing none of you are in contact with as big a variety of stragers genitals as we are. 







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rose Eva victoria
Since: Oct '15 Vip  
pushpin 80 - 31 Reviews


 People can believe it doesn’t come from oral, That’s fine as i stated before to each their own But thats exactly why our rates are the highest it’s ever been guys 😂😂😂  And the reason it’s so hard to know about STDs being transmitted from just orally is because most of the time that person has had unprotected sex within that period of time along with oral so it’s hard to just go off of “the oral” facts If it’s worth taking the chances then take the chances! And men it is harder for you to contract diseases over women it just is how it is. It’s just human anatomy if you’ve been hobbying and never got anything congratulations!! That’s good!  just be careful even if it’s a small percentage You could because rates are high right now was all I’m saying! 







Lineman
tophat Jettn
Since: Jul '14
pushpin 1416 - 32 Reviews


Dammit, multiple handle guy!!!!.....don't you UNDERSTAND?!














Tim curry legend o
tophat Gentlemansavage
Since: Jan '17 Vip  
pushpin 769 - Qr 24 Reviews


That's fucking hilarious, Jettn.


Kirk was the man, he got more inter-dimensional tail than anyone.




Interesting article about disease and how it affects men and women differently







tophat MeatPole
Since: Jul '14
pushpin 507 - 49 Reviews


You're right, who knows how things are really contracted.  When it comes down to it, if you are hobbying or providing, you are boning a lot of people, and increasing your chances of contracting something.  Condoms are mostly useful for stopping AIDS, which is why it is critical to use for FS.  The rest of the germs are going to find there way around and top of condoms.  The sexperts say the risk is extremely low to negligible with bbbj (which is why the porn industry allows it while condoms are now required), but I guess anything is possible.  In the end, it's a numbers game.  If you suck 20 dicks a week for 10 years there is more of a chance than someone who sucks three a week.  Not sure if using a condom will change that.  I wonder if there is research on the use of condoms for BJs and how much it lowers the "risk".  Maybe that is really what we should be looking at here.







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tophat MrRoboto
Since: May '17
pushpin 1425 - 11 Reviews


I'm with Savage on this.  Yes you can get exposed via oral sex.  But if you have a strong immune system it should kick it.

But you can offer any service you want and any Hobbyist is free to pick any provider he wants.







tophat loompadoompa
Since: Apr '15 Vip  
pushpin 529


The the answer belong to the seller.


Tenor %281%29





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rose gemma
Since: Apr '16
pushpin 183 - 18 Reviews


You know I contemplated on posting this because I non stop hear from men “the chances of catching an STD through oral is slim to none” so on and so forth and I know those guys are going to hop on this thread any moment but I decided to anyways! even I (who is non gfe) as I’m sure many other women have thought of doing gfe for the better pay, more customers but I never have but the thought has went through my head and thankfully when I see things like this I surely don’t regret sticking to being safe! I feel like us non gfe girls get pressured so much for BB recently! I’ve been told on NS many times my prices are to high for non GFE services blah blah blah and when having a stalker and put in neighborhood watch a man wrote in the forums “let her go bro she charges $400 an hour and doesn’t even do gfe let her go there’s better fish in the sea” smh like what kind of shit is that! That’s fine is non gfe isn’t your cup of tea or maybe it is to each their own but don’t bash us in the process of it! Be safe 

California STD’s are up 40% since 5 years ago (and all that have increased can be transmitted orally!)




XoXo

Eva Victoria 





https://www.google.com/amp/sacramento.cbslocal.com/2017/09/26/california-stds-2016-report/am



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Amen.

Talk is cheap,

nothing kills my vibe more than this sex ed review when I'm just trying to be sweet about it if this isn't comfortable for me to do because I can't call it unless I'm there in person to see what's up. 


For me I just stick to CBJs unless I'm sure ( regulars/trusted clients only.)


Im not a doctor but I'm definitely not letting some bullshit have me all fxcked off  later on. 


Knowledge is power & ignorance is bliss - so this is where it's tricky (no pun intended)?...


Since we're on the subject let me just say my tolerance for ignorance has such a low threshold >.< (what can I say).


Just don't push the issue and then go soft on me pleading for some shit & making things unnatural instead of going with the flow, 

piss me off & its super lame super quick.



Thanks for throwing this one out there.


A little more respect for hookers who MIGHT have more self-respect than you'd  think if you're THAT guy. ._.


Shoutout for you respectful gentlemen who can get through this without incident/weirdness! Appreciate it.








tophat momotaro
Since: Aug '15
pushpin 5


chloediamond, your description of the symptoms is spot on.


I recently had chlamydia in my throat. I'm actually just getting back to normal now. I always used condoms with a provider for intercourse, but unprotected DATY. She started complaining about soreness during sex, and not more than a few days later I got the worst sore throat I've ever had. Painful to swallow and I could hardly eat or drink anything. I had a fever and swollen neck / lymph nodes and just felt really bad. I thought it was a cold or flu at first, but it just lingered as a bad sore throat. Fortunately I have some azithromycin, 1000 mg did the trick and within 24 hours it was basically gone.







tophat PeterPeter
Since: Sep '14
pushpin 869 - Qr 62 Reviews


A few years ago before I started hobbying (by that I mean doing FS), I would get hand jobs at amps and that is it.  Then I graduated to getting bbbj from ladies, but nothing more than that.  Back then I would do that maybe once per month.  I ended up seeing this one lady who just could not get the job done (maybe it was just me that night), but she was a bit trashy to be honest and I ended up leaving without ever cumming.  It was a car date so I didn’t get around to cleaning thoroughly until hours later.  A few days later I get a severe UTI of some kind, hurt so bad to pee I almost cried.  Went to doctor, he gives me a shot and zithromyacin prescription, clears it up.  He said it was ghonerrea.


i never had any sexual contact with anybody else for weeks before, so I know for a certainty that guys can get these std’s from oral. Every since that time, I make sure I cum (and pee) immediately to flush out the system, even if I have to self finish.  Does it stop me from partaking in bbbj, no, but I would say 90% of the time I don’t do oral at all, just CFS.


so while I agree the risk is relatively low and the consequences are relatively manageable if things do go badly, I don’t think it is fair to characterize it as so low to not even worry about, and the lady is likely far more susceptible to transmission than the guy, especially if she allows CIM.


ill be honest, I don’t know what would possess a girl to suck a dick in the first place, but I try not to look a gift horse in the mouth (no pun intended).  I look for GFE ladies for all the other aspects of GFE, I couldn’t care less if she does bbbj or not, but passion preferably with kissing is high on my list of desires.







Megatron2
tophat Megatron
Since: Aug '14
pushpin 2635 - 12 Reviews


Just the typical SCARE MONGERING tactic by the non-GFE providers who are jealous and desperate because they can't compete. Same old crap that used to happen over at RB.


What's the purpose of the original post in the first place? BIG FUCKING DEAL.


As if any GFE provider who have been used to a comfy lifestyle and faithful regulars will suddenly turn into non-GFE from one lousy and lame post?


As if any GFE hobbyist will suddenly be scared shitless and change his way to non-GFE?


For my DATY I always make sure 1)  NOT to swallow pussy juice. As a matter of fact TRUE DATY is performed OUTSIDE, not INSIDE the vagina. Only the ignorant guys think the clit is located deep inside the vagina and, 2) immediately rinse my mouth with antiseptic mouthwash before moving on to intercourse.


Never had a problem not even sore or strep throat.








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rose Eva victoria
Since: Oct '15 Vip  
pushpin 80 - 31 Reviews


I feel like this is a great discussion topic and we all have great points of view we all have said what we thought and I think it’s been a great discussion for the people in the thread to hear what people have to say about their personal experiences but of course you Megatron have to come with your aggressive attitude and unadult like ways per usual bashing people opinions.... typical Megatron shit.. FYI I’m not the only one who posted on this topic that’s all over the news were in the sex industry genius that’s why it’s an important topic when STDs are floating around everywhere! Lol That’s why we have a health/wellness section and changing a providers perspective is never my intentions!! Everyone has the right to do what they want and it’s their body!! I’m never trying to persuade any hobbyist or providers! Every man has their cup of tea weather it’s short tall spinner bbw fbsm bdsm gfe non-gfe whatever it is you will get regulars for what you are  With my post  I had thought of it when I first started and thought that was the only way to make money in this industry but it’s not I was wrong regulars come and I don’t even offer FS anymore on my menu I’m very low volume When it comes to FS now and there are some legit girls who do gfe and love it! That’s good do what makes you happy! Regardless of what anyone else thinks! I never once said anything to bash a provider or hobbyist I was talking about when hobbyist try to talk you into it after clearly stating you don’t offer it! I agree it could be a number game and I agree your immune can play a huge roll in it and I love hearing everyone’s opinions but Megatron no need to bash my post calling it “lame” and I’m a “jealous provider” get a grip hobbying is suppose to be a fun thing and hardly ever do you post anything positive! Nonetheless in all honesty I do think the last part of your post was very informative and good advice to stay STD free which is what this post is about! Another provider  replied to my post in pm and said that she does something similar and she has been STD free from using mouthwash after that is something I’ve never heard of and you learn something new everyday! Like I said this is a great post and very informative but no need for the negativity  

XoXo

Eva








Tim curry legend o
tophat Gentlemansavage
Since: Jan '17 Vip  
pushpin 769 - Qr 24 Reviews


I'd be waaaay more worried about getting an STD from a random Tinder date or TOFTT/Newbie provider.


I think part (most?) of Megatrons frustration is that people fall for scare tactics and sensationalist media bites.


The truth is, the facts are and the science shows that contracting an STD via oral sex is pretty damn rare. Especially something that can't be cured easily, and even then.

It's also exceptionally rare to get it via PIV or PIA sex.


These risks are even lower when you use condoms, and lower still if you and your partner are healthy.


The risks go up, statistically, due to increased frequency and being unhealthy.


Alas, I digress. Ladies, you have a right to offer what you want. It doesn't affect me either way.

But I know that I'm not going to spend money on a non-GFE provider no matter how attractive she is.


That's the beauty of this game. Something for everyone.







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rose Eva victoria
Since: Oct '15 Vip  
pushpin 80 - 31 Reviews


👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Well said! And I totally get what your saying and I see your point of view and it is the beauty of this game! and I did see/understand Megatrons point of view or his “frustrations” but his delivery was rude and distasteful which made his point unappealing but the thank you for translating it into a more tasteful mannor! That’s how the forums should be used to express your opinions, great post!💗


XoXo

Eva







tophat titsman
Since: Apr '15
pushpin 203



Victoria,

there is a medical profession called dentistry.

If you visit your dentist regularly, e.g. every three month, he or she can detect any issue with your (big) mouth.

They are trained to look for any sign of std in the mouth as part oral exams.

http://www.dental.pacific.edu/

https://dentistry.ucsf.edu/


Also god bless Plan Parenthood, they are there to help sexually active people, like you and me, from becoming a hypochondriac.

https://www.plannedparenthood.org/










tophat Beefy
Since: Dec '14
pushpin 1430 - 4 Reviews


Based on your reviews you have no problem doing dfk and daty with these guys that are doing the same thing with bbbj girls, based on your post I would think these services would not be offered, just admit you don't want a bare dick in your mouth and move on with life this has nothing to do with STD's everyone has a comfort level just be comfortable in yours and realize no one is going to change their behavior for you.







tophat loompadoompa
Since: Apr '15 Vip  
pushpin 529


Here is the latest alarming stats on sexually transmitted deseases:


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/29/health/chlamydia-syphilis-gonorrhea.html