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tophat MrRoboto
Since: May '17
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So Roboto has been reflecting on his past sexual exploits and realized his Provider to Civie ratio is heavily skewed towards providers by a factor of 10.

The question I have is this considered normal?      Should the ratio be more closer to 50/50 ?


For providers they would definitely skew towards client sex.  But for the average hobbyist what is your Provider to Civie ratio?









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tophat ValleyScott
Since: Jul '17
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I don't know what the actual ratio is, and I am way too tired to try and figure it out, but it is likely way more than 10:1.  Shit, could be closer to 30:1.  Once you start doing p4p on a regular basis, the numbers start adding up.  Been with way more providers than not.  And I'm sure there big-time hobbyists have ratios in excess of 100:1.  So your 10:1 is no where near "normal", it's abnormally low.


-Valleyscott
"Always a gentleman"







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tophat Gentlemansavage
Since: Jan '17 Vip  
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I'm active in the dating scene.....it's a good time to be single in your 40s with options.

Sex with civvies is waaaaay better, IMO.


It's like a 1 in 5 shot of having crazy ass monkey love/connection with a Provider and a 100% chance in the civvie world.


I'll still see a provider here or there and hit up AAMPs. 

Variety, man.







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tophat MrRoboto
Since: May '17
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I believe I need to qualify my first statement.  When I mean skewed towards providers I am referring to the number of women seen.  This includes all dating before marriage and after.










tophat Nerd2319
Since: Jul '17
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Yep...Sounds about right, especially for guys who have spent a lot of time married, which is where sex and romance go to die.







tophat Pacificgrey
Since: Apr '15
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I generally take zero interest in the sex lives of other people.  I only care about my sex life. So, I don't really think about who has what ratio. 

Nor, do I take time to place any value judgements on these so called ratios.  That's just my personal opinion. 







tophat Naughty4uandme
Since: Oct '16
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I was trying to figure out how to answer this and it was tough until you qualified it to include everything so it will be somewhat easier, I really don't know exact counts but probably around 750 civvies and 100 providers in my life time, yes I am a certified slut! I didn't get married until I was 44 so I was a player and did quite well, got married and was faithful during marriage, got divorced and turned back into my true self-a total slut, found Fetlife, CL, BP and NS so in the last 8 years I have probably gone down in my numbers to 2/1 Civvies/Providers ratio, the number could be more in favor of civvies if I didn't love the young hard bodies of the providers on here   like Gentelmansavage said earlier in this thread there are soooo many civvie ladies that are looking for fun that it is a great time out there.







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tophat MrRoboto
Since: May '17
pushpin 1648 - 12 Reviews


I was trying to figure out how to answer this and it was tough until you qualified it to include everything so it will be somewhat easier, I really don't know exact counts but probably around 750 civvies and 100 providers in my life time, yes I am a certified slut! I didn't get married until I was 44 so I was a player and did quite well, got married and was faithful during marriage, got divorced and turned back into my true self-a total slut, found Fetlife, CL, BP and NS so in the last 8 years I have probably gone down in my numbers to 2/1 Civvies/Providers ratio, the number could be more in favor of civvies if I didn't love the young hard bodies of the providers on here   like Gentelmansavage said earlier in this thread there are soooo many civvie ladies that are looking for fun that it is a great time out there.

Holy Fuck!!  I am blown away!!  I don't think i have gone into triple digits yet! 







tophat bluepeacock
Since: Sep '17
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Civvies by a mile! Of course I was a teenager/early adult in the 70s.


High school was nuts. It was such a hot time. Then college was essentially a fuck fest. After college, I had the chance to travel quite a bit on work as I was in international sales early in my career. I didn't get why, but in many countries I traveled I found that many women liked Americans, especially in Asia - Japan, Korea, Singapore, Hong Kong. I dated several flight attendants on Singapore Airlines & Cathay Pacific. My hottest times were in Argentina & Brazil. The office manager at my Brazilian distributor in Rio was insatiable and such a fun party gal. She would pick me up from the airport, drive me to the hotel and fuck until I couldn't see


I only got into providers after my marriage went down the tubes. Then too it is rather light. The civvie scene is so good right now with so many cougars around. The only problem is that they get possessive really fast. I've had an ATF provider for some years. We have a great connection, excellent chemistry when we are together and awesome sex that rivals some of the best civvies I've hung out with. But in terms of the best all round relationship - top notch sex, engaging conversation and adventure together - it was the early years with my GF who became my wife. It quickly went downhill few years after we tied the knot. Maybe it was a cultural thing - she was from Portugal and after a while maybe living in the US got to her.










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tophat MrRoboto
Since: May '17
pushpin 1648 - 12 Reviews


I hate you already !!!     LOL  !  Some guys have all the luck and get all the Pussy!!







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tophat Gentlemansavage
Since: Jan '17 Vip  
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20% of the men fuck 80% of the women.


With a bit of work, it's not hard to be in that 20%.







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tophat MrRoboto
Since: May '17
pushpin 1648 - 12 Reviews


20% of the men fuck 80% of the women.


With a bit of work, it's not hard to be in that 20%.

--- Hey, I am willing to work!  I just need to ditch my SO first.  







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tophat lovergrrl
Since: Jun '17
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Between all of the various sex workers that I regularly enjoy,  I'm gonna go with 50:1







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tophat pohaku
Since: Nov '14
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Sex is a highly subjective experience. Even if a person gets the best of everything sexual service could offer he may say " we were not connecting." or she is formulaic etc. I think it is more important to look at experience when it is not quite 8-9 level but something made a client want to return to her in future. May be it is the sign of possibility to develop the session to another level to some people... or the hope of connection.   Some clients and providers frown at the idea that some clients wanting providers to like them.. to a lesser degree clients who are seeking connection. Some clients are worried that they are paying for affection and instead of acknowledging that need they turn their attention to more technical aspect of session...and critical.


IMHO it is OK to want to be liked or give something in exchange of attention or affection as long as both sides are aware.


To be satisfied by casual sex, client must to be honest to himself about his needs. That could be more difficult than you may think.







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tophat MrRoboto
Since: May '17
pushpin 1648 - 12 Reviews


Dude I am honest!  I am horny and for a long time nothing was happening at home.

The reason I posed this question was that I felt my transactional sex experience far outweighed my non-transactional experience and I wondered if it was normal.


The replies seem to be all over the map.  Some guys are getting enough action without paying for it.  Others are more active in p4p.


I want to have casual sex!  Really!! I just don't want to pay for it everytime!







tophat bluepeacock
Since: Sep '17
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I'm sure luck played some role. But my first boss told me something after he hired me - "You have to fish where the fish are". Of course he said that in the context of sales of our product. You have to be where the gals are first. Second lesson from that boss - Pay attention. Meaning listen and be genuinely interested in the other person. I have a naturally outgoing & gregarious personality and I love to talk & hang out with women. In my experience they like it when you pay them attention.


Mr. Roboto, go out and just enjoy their company. Smile at them. You'd be surprised how often you can get laid. Especially now, when so many are glued to their smart phone screen.


I seek providers for PSE. Just raw animalistic sex. My civie scene is more about connection. Shared interest. About enjoying each others company. And GFE sex. This is not possible when you have to pay by the hour with a provider.







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tophat Edwardlewis
Since: Sep '14 Vip  
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Yeah, I'm definitely in the 100:1 club.  I've been with over 700 different escorts and only 7 civves.  To be fair though, I've only been single less than one year of my adult life.  So, 7 civvies within one year isn't eye-watering, but it is probably well above average for most men.  I've just always been with girlfriends or the wife and generally faithful, other than the last decade and I've never stepped out of my marriage unless I was paying for it. 







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tophat Paul94544
Since: Feb '15 Vip  
pushpin 1215 - 18 Reviews


I only see providers now who provide gfe . Ive reached rhe point where i simply dont think its worth having sex in a mechanical manner fortunately there are enough really hot escorts who are into it though it means paying more i simply don't party as frequently as i did  when my standards were non gfe